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Post by JamesMFan on Jul 1, 2007 14:25:47 GMT -5
He did die, yeah  I was thinking it was so bold and daring when they skipped a year and killed loads of people off and then they went back and erased it all  Oh well, at least they didn't erase Martha and Co's memories. I enjoyed Lucy shooting the Master. hee hee. Did they sack her ?  I thought she must have chosen to leave Maybe the new companion really will be Sally Sparrow. |
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Post by z on Jul 1, 2007 15:28:56 GMT -5
Maybe that was just one of his deaths where he relives again afterwards It explains the theory of why old man doctors head was so large , and then when he was aged even more his body shrunk but head grew , the older you are the more your head takes over in the dr who realm I liked the idea of the doctor having sat there bored out of his old mind and the bit where the master rolled him into the wall I loved the look of the bleak future earth id have like a series set there  it reminded me of those children of men trailers ( I still havent seen it ) I was glad he was gone and not always lurking in the tardis It was a brutal sacking revealed early in the series then denied ,but denied it like she wasn’t even leaving its awful They’ve got to get him together with one of these companions or whats the damned point of having these bloody guests |
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Post by JamesMFan on Jul 1, 2007 17:18:21 GMT -5
I didn't notice the head thing He looked bloody stupid as that Gollum thing. I thought they'd flattened him into a skeleton for a moment. I noticed the rolling of him into the wall. Harsh, man. The little staged coup started off so well Jack all dirty and tortured and ripping his chains out of the wall? Phwoar. I've never really found him attractive before It reminded me of Children of Men too Good film. I just like that they seem to give DW a big budget rather than being all BBC like and skimping. I thought he was going to tie him up in some howling abyss like he did with the Family of Blood or whatever. Or lock him up like Pavayne in Angel. I never heard of this brutal sacking! I'm so out of touch! Strangely, I thought he was closer to getting together with Martha than Rose! I don't know why particularly, but it just felt that way. I forgot the little bit at the beginning of the ep where some species was looking at their computer and it said "Earth: on edge of extinction" blah blah. Do not approach, or whatever. And I was thinking "Yeah, cheers galactic neighbours. That's when good neighbours become good friends, my ARSE." |
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Post by Spuffy on Jul 2, 2007 0:30:51 GMT -5
I just saw the finale today. Fantastic as usual, Doctor Who. Jack as the Face of Boe. I want more. Damn Christmas being so far away. |
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Post by z on Jul 2, 2007 6:46:14 GMT -5
I thought the doctor would be a baby wrapped in his suit the casual carelessness of rolling him into the wall was better than if he'd hit him They were hoping to win over some viewers for Torchwood looks like it worked Theyre relegating Martha to Torchwood it looks tome like theyre trying to fulfill a two year contract they might have given her , its a shabby old situation if she elevated Torchwood though it would be great Theres a rumour James Marsters will be a recurring character Roll on Torchwood and the Christmas special |
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Post by Effulgent on Jul 2, 2007 9:31:20 GMT -5
I thought the finale was a bit shiz actually, it was "brilliant shit" though as someone on another website said. Simm!Master  I think Rusty realized that the true OTP of the show is actually Doctor/Master, oh the tears! oh the "Master my one twu luuuuv, I wouldn't go domestic for anyone else, but sooo would for you!" scene! oh Rusty you and your sexy gay agenda!!!!!! I be kinda shipping them now. Even if The Master is evil and hits his companions (poor Lucy.) I was shipping lucy/master a little bit too, they seemed very Angelus/Drusilla-ey and even more effed up than spuffy! (otp fo lyfe) or maybe just as (less than bangel though I'll stop bashing) but the masty is a player? surprise, surprise! get out of my "review" Cilla Black!!! and I love how after emoing for ten minutes, the doc was perfectly fine when they were saying goodbye to Jack "lmao hes a boe? ROFFFFFFFFFFFFL, master who? roooooffffty" but thats just the doctor though he be feeling sad, he he hides his emo behind a smiley veil. The boe thing was crazy man, makes sense though, thought the face had something going on with that cat, and he looked very perverty he should have said something like "Rose watch out for the alternative universes!" "hey Martha nice bum" "your next companion will have a nice bum doctoooooor" and then have Rose say "wtf so my bum isn't nice ?" and have the doctor roll is eyes and say "I'm showing you your planet getting destroyed and all you can do is talk in letters?" I miss the ninth Doctor  I wish they had that kind of explanation for Vampires in the buffyverse "I live forever, but I look older " "son, you gonna get yo head stuck in a jar" "it all makes sense now, thanks Joss/Giles Fairy!Doctor was hilarious so was Gollum!Doctor, the episode was like crack!Fic The Doctor/Martha relationship was a lot like Rose/Doctor at times, in that occasionaly he gave her meaningfull glances, they lolled they fought the baddies, but there was added Rose angst there and Martha's low self esteem, you had the "unrequited love" and David himself said that The doctor never really accepted Martha (and he accepted all his other companions RACCCCCISSSST) and I always thought that it would go somewhere, Not that they would become a couple or the doctor would say "ZOMG I LOVES YOU XXXX" because that doesn't happen with Doctor Who, but a little appreciation would have been nice, Hate her or love her, Martha did do a lot for him (as he did for her.) aka saving his life, going around the world telling people to love him (Oh doctor "yeah Martha, I don't love you btw, but can you go around the world for a year telling people to love me? ok byeee" you clueless boob) being his maid in human nature etc (I would have told him to piss off, yeah doctor and tardis, have you noticed that she isn't white? it would be horrible for anyone, but Martha oh) and it seemed like The doctor was finally accepting her and they were getting along. Then saturday happened  oy vey, I LOVED the goodbye, because thats how I always imagined it to be, that Martha would leave with her dignity intact and she'd be the one to decide to leave and I loved that she went back and told him that she was awesome and not second best and the more I think about it, it makes sense, Martha Jones loves her family, we saw in the first episode, that even if they annoyed the flub out of her its obvious her family are important to her and that she loves them and cares for them, and after what they've all been through, it was time that she spent a little time with them, not to care for them, but because she needed some caring too, it must have been hard not to be able to see them for a year and they were forced to become the help and serve the master I don't blame her for leaving, but she did give him his phone though, so she'll be back (to get the phone and tell the doc to piss off ) basically Martha Jones > everyone. The Doctor = BLIND (I don't care if you think the masters his one twu wuv, hes a polygamist dammit! we had that stupid "can't see whats in front of me" line in shakespere code after the doc insulted Martha then we had the adverts where she says "I need a man with a heart " and he replies "I have two hears  " WTF Russell you boooooooob) Jack = Boe, also has great chemistry WITH EVERYONE. Tim = sexy doctor, will probably get it on with Martha. The Master = Will never be simm again oh well Sam can get back to Gene. Clive = would get on well with the doctor. Francine = oh poor Frany getting a hug from the doctor, stop it! Doctor/Jackie is the true ship! Lucy = girlfriend you soooo the slightly less crazy and human version of Drusilla. So Titanic eh? looks like Jack and Rose will be back in the christmas episode har har. |
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Post by z on Jul 2, 2007 9:53:07 GMT -5
i was thinking how when the doctor was telling him to regenerate that certain viewers would be hoping Simm would become re-GENE-erated theres never a place for Cilla maybe JM will be playing Spike in torchwood and will be talking to jack about when he'll become the head of Spo i thought theyy might get rid of her with Martha choosing to go and put on a brave face while being crushed inside , but having more of a good earthbound life to look forward to than Rose ,being stronger and able to get on with it with bleak grey days but NHS wages and MD perks I still thought he'd declare his undying fondness and beg her to stay when she went back in I heard that the Tim bloke would be the doctors new sidekick good god oooh your joke made me think the good Jack and Rose would be back |
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Post by Effulgent on Jul 2, 2007 9:54:45 GMT -5
BBC PRESS RELEASE: DEAR RUSTY, Please don't make the companion a 21st century female human from london with an old ladies name, been there done that, bought the love stories and wanted to punch you thanks, I would like a companion from another planet, or another time or both (ouu err) maybe male so I can do some slashing and we can get some eye candy, knowing you, you'll probably have the companion fall in love with the doctor, like you did with Rose, Jack and Martha, if you're going to imply that two of the companions will never be loved by the doctor, YOU COULD AT LEAST HAVE THEM GET TOGETHER BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HOT, Rose/Martha foreeeeever. Also, I'll love you if you get that Tim Guy from the last episode to become the companion then Martha could come back and Flirt with him and "stuff" and you'd also have the best threesome ever (sorry Jack) or you could have a hawt girl who has a thing for Martha and maybe the doctor too and they could be a threesome of hawtness, I'd like me a male companion though, AS LONG AS WE HAVE A HAWT OT3, I'LL BE FINE. also, when Martha guest stars in Torchwood, please don't make her turn into a sex maniac and do Owen, I'd like her and Jack to have awesome chemistry filled scenes together, and Ianto to be shocked because he knows adeola and Martha looks exactly like her, maybe she and Tosh could have a good chat and she'll get on with weirdaffairhaving!Rose, oh I mean Gwen, maybe James Marster's character will be her love interest, I don't know, treat her right, and have a line about how awesome her bottom is please, thank you. Love, Me. |
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Post by z on Jul 2, 2007 10:07:28 GMT -5
theyve not started filming it so he could change his plans based on your wishes  i really think theyre just letting Martha see out her contract in the backwatesr of torchwood instead of sacking her though , the gits |
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Post by Effulgent on Jul 2, 2007 13:20:38 GMT -5
i was thinking how when the doctor was telling him to regenerate that certain viewers would be hoping Simm would become re-GENE-erated theres never a place for Cilla maybe JM will be playing Spike in torchwood and will be talking to jack about when he'll become the head of Spo i thought theyy might get rid of her with Martha choosing to go and put on a brave face while being crushed inside , but having more of a good earthbound life to look forward to than Rose ,being stronger and able to get on with it with bleak grey days but NHS wages and MD perks I still thought he'd declare his undying fondness and beg her to stay when she went back in I heard that the Tim bloke would be the doctors new sidekick good god oooh your joke made me think the good Jack and Rose would be back I'd die of happyness if The Master came back and was played by Glenister that would be all kinds of fantastic (good kinds! I hate Bad kinds of fantastic!) rumour has it shes going to play Owen's love interest in the next series than her and Gwen are going to get it on in the finale poor Cilla. that would be amazing, then we could all ship Boe/Spo Spoboe foreveeeer. I think Rose is having a good life well hopefully, when we first met Rose I'd say comparing Martha's life with hers, Martha had a better life to go back to, but I'm one of the many who think shes probably having a great life, and has a good job (at torchwood) and has found a man that she loves (and she REALLY loves him, and isn't just going for the first man that comes along, because he'll do, and isn't comparing him to the doctor, because hes a mary sue type character that no one can compare too) she has a family that loves her a best friend whos in love with a geordie (Mickey) etc maybe shes even dating jake , In my world shes doing fine if she had never met the doctor, she would have lived (Well probably died since that building blew up, but you know what I mean ) but life was much more fun when hanging around with him I don't know, that makes me think when she comes back, he'll appreciate her more, because even if he isn't in love with Martha (which he so secretly is!) he could have at least said "I'll miss you miss jones" "your sister is hot!" it was a very weird goodbye where she said most of the lines and the *Cough*heartless*cough* Doctor was just standing there looking sad then giving her the "oh you rock but I wont say so " smile he gives her, I'm hoping we'll see the doctor check his phone every five minutes in season 4 and I hope when she phones him up, its to ask him if he still has credit, and if he could phone her friend up and ask her if she knows where her stethoscope is and he'd say "anything else?" and she'd say "no" and hang up, bwahahahaaaaaaah. I'd like if she became a recurring character and because he has no family, her home could be his home away from home, so he could come over for christmas and what have you and Martha would say "so hows that helga girl?" and he'd say "fine!, you look good for a 54 year old" and she'd say "I'll never be as hot as sarah jane " THAT WOULD BE GOOD! I'd love it if he became his companion, than we could have a scene when Martha and the doc are reunited, where she opens her arms up, and the doctor does too thinking that hes going to get a hug and she walks past him and hugs Tom and tom's all "hey who are you? " and she'd say "anything you want me to be " and the doctor would stand there with his mouth open saying "who do you think you are? captain jack?" I think theres something in barrowman's contract about only getting to star in dw every 2 seasons, so we'll have to wait a while till he comes back I'd love it if Kate Winslet's Rose became a companion than she'd complain about loosing Jack and than the doc would say "what the hell is it with you women and jack?  hes in ma show stealin ma women!" |
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Post by z on Jul 2, 2007 14:14:49 GMT -5
eccleston knew the power of a good 'fantastic' i was never too keen poor owen and gwen Gwen will no longer have the worst teeth on the show though spobo will never go youre in deep denial ! the womans a mess i still hear her sobs when im by the sea , shes so sandblasted these days and straggly haired a complete fruitcake i bet he starts a fling with the sister and she gets the sidekick role , what a final indignity for poor marth if she had a new life and the doctor kept turning up at christmas it would be awkward but id like to see it he should kick Tom off the Tardis if thats how he carries on ! thats a terribleclause i hope its ignored id like it if winslet was condemned to a torchwood spinoff that was on bbc9 |
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Post by Effulgent on Jul 2, 2007 15:00:17 GMT -5
theyve not started filming it so he could change his plans based on your wishes i really think theyre just letting Martha see out her contract in the backwatesr of torchwood instead of sacking her though , the gits I don't know :/ thing is that before Freema was cast, they were interested in her, I get the impression that they were the ones that phoned her agent up and said "yo we wants a Martha and yo freema is her" because she never knew she was auditioning for DW, she got a call that they wanted her to audition for Torchwood and then at the audition they gave her the script for "rose" the first ninth doctor episode and she read from it, they told her they didn't have any scripts for torchwood or that they lost them and I'm guesing she read Rose's parts, so they obviously thought she could be as good as Billie and she'd be good as a companion and she also did a screen test with David, I know all actors go through this, but What I'm saying is they obviously thought that that she was great so they hired her, so WHY THE FRIK WOULD THEY DO THIS? and as Rusty said she has had rave reviews and shes popular, most of the audiance like her, SO WHATHEHELLZ, She has had good reviews, its only the tabloids that have been out to get her (the sun mostly, the mirror seem to like her, the sun used to, but because they didn't get the romp they predicted would happen in the shakespere code and she's never said anything bad about billie and co aka anything Juicy, they seem to have it in for her.) and most of the fandom love or like her, the responce has been positive, yes you do have people that dislike her, but shes won over most of the people that thought they wouldn't like her. and even if she was unpopular, when David first come along, everyone went on about how they wanted Eccleston back and how he was soooo better than Tennant (even before we saw the tenth doctor!... David was freema before freema was freema ) but they still stuck with tennant and people fell for him or is Rusty Sexist? does he like men better than women? and showbiz? it aint that nice, if they were nice folks, we would have at least another season of Angel if they want to fire you, they'll do it (look what happened to Richard Bacon of Blue Peter fame ) I don't know, I'm trying to be positive. I just hope that it wont be a situation where "second half of series 4" means 3 episodes like Captain Jack got, damn you rusty I want to see her see him regenerate and stick around for at least another series! WHATCHU DOIN MAAAN? and apparently david said that the doctor knows that he hasn't behaved that well towards Martha and that hes been thoughtless sometimes, does that mean that he'll be nice to her and think about her feelings and what have you when she comes back? :/ will it change or is this a "yeah he treated her like crap, oh wellz, he doesn't care" moment? so hes an arse who doesn't care about his companions? oh well! tell me something I didn't know at least hes a loveable arse... well...Gene Hunt would be better as the doctor he does the loveable meany thing well. oh well, James and Freema? guess I'll have to watch torchwood now. |
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Post by z on Jul 2, 2007 15:16:36 GMT -5
The original axe rumours said it was because after a good ep 1 she turned crap i disagree I dont get how they can decide shes crap and not think of changing their minds ,just decide thats the case and go about easing her out via torchwood . I wouldnt be surprised if she's never seen on Doctor Who again Anthony Head and a few other notables said Tennant was better before we even saw him I think old Rus might be more forgiving to a handsome fellow than a woman its just a feeling i get this is bbc showbiz! they never sack anyone openly apart from bacon and deayton i think maybe the doc will declare his love for her then she'll get shot to death , so the writers dont have to dare do anything brave when is Torchwood ? |
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Post by Effulgent on Jul 2, 2007 16:39:23 GMT -5
eccleston knew the power of a good 'fantastic' i was never too keen poor owen and gwen Gwen will no longer have the worst teeth on the show though spobo will never go youre in deep denial ! the womans a mess i still hear her sobs when im by the sea , shes so sandblasted these days and straggly haired a complete fruitcake i bet he starts a fling with the sister and she gets the sidekick role , what a final indignity for poor marth if she had a new life and the doctor kept turning up at christmas it would be awkward but id like to see it he should kick Tom off the Tardis if thats how he carries on ! thats a terribleclause i hope its ignored id like it if winslet was condemned to a torchwood spinoff that was on bbc9 We've heard Tennant's doctor say fantastic a few times, it just isn't the same Eccleston did it with style I hope they make her a femme fatale, she'll probably be bisexual since its torchwood and she'll go around seducing all the characters, and gwen will end up having a fight with her where they fight with their teeth (they pull them out and throw them at each other) because Gwen's the one that everyones supposed to love! Spobing me, Spobing you, ahhhhhaa, there is nothing we can do! She'll build herself a sand!doctor, which looks strangely like ronnie corbett, hopefully the doctor will regenerate into him, so we know Rose has great sand sculpting kills maybe she'll become famous for her sand!corbetts! and become a millionare when some clueless rich person decides to buy them! that would be fun actually, if it was someone from her family! then she WOULD HAVE TO! come back and shout at them and say "leo! you have a child back home! and Mum's worried about you! what are you doing with him? hes probably comparing you to Rose anyway, come on!! " he could occasionaly go to hers for some tea, or go to her when loosing companions, and she'll care for him and he'd say "what did I do wrong? " and she'd slap him and say "you kept comparing their arses to mines! you know I have the best! just don't tell them they have horrible ones!" it would be great if he turned up, she has 3 kids and a wonderfull husband, and he'll come over every christmas and make her husband jealous and he'd say "he'll never be as good as me, Martha " and she'd roll her eyes and stuff some turkey in his mouth and say " wha... yeah your right, well he does do domestic " and then they'll run off together, who cares about the kids! you're right he probably would thats a shame, oh well I was joking but its probably in there bbc 8 if its leo |
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Post by z on Jul 2, 2007 16:53:38 GMT -5
I wonder if Eccleston secretly watches it still i bet he'd deny it i think Gwens teeth gap might swallow cilla up never to be seen again hoppefully i bet the episode where Spo and Boe meet will be full of the campest campness ever seen , and Russell will make sure he's on writing/directing duties it would be good if a fat norwegian beach bum turned up pretending to be the doctor testing how deep for the doctor Rose's love truely was he can say ''er no more time travel ,we'll just set up home here '' the sister looked like she could have what it takes during the moody master murder plot sequence hopefully it wouldnt be the mum im trying to think of a dreary husband for martha who'll have to hear this arse banter and be furious but a broken man inside sod him and the 3 kids theres time travel to be done! it was great when eccleston lured billie with the promise of time travel make all annoying clauses null and void for tv enterntainment ! we're avoiding bbc 7 as its real |
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Oh well, at least they didn't erase Martha and Co's memories. 
I thought she must have chosen to leave 
it reminded me of those children of men trailers 
I think Rusty realized that the true OTP of the show is actually Doctor/Master, oh the tears! oh the "Master my one twu luuuuv, I wouldn't go domestic for anyone else, but sooo would for you!" scene! oh Rusty you and your sexy gay agenda!!!!!! I be kinda shipping them now.
" WTF Russell you boooooooob)
hes in ma show stealin ma women!"